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The discussions about the withdrawl of concent about IVF treatment in the news lately has been very enlightening to me as to how it works and I don't think I like it.

In principle I'm not against treatments to help people have children. However, keeping sperm and eggs frozen is one thing, keeping fertilised embryos is another.

Once that embryo has been created it's a life, what right have we to bung it in a freezer and decide whether it gets to carry on with that life or not?


14th Mar, 2006 13:20 (UTC)
Well, I guess that's a consistent view, which puts you ahead of most people, including me. Though I currently aren't convinced that something of the complexity of a cell deserves consideration because it would become alive.

Hmmm. What about cloning? My discarded finger cell contains the genetic information for a complete, different[1] person. Do I have a moral obligation to clone it?

Is it the probability of that happening if I don't interfere? What about someone almost certainly going to die I might be able to save, shouldn't I?

[1] Same genes as me, but it would be a different person.
14th Mar, 2006 19:21 (UTC)
Your finger cells wouldn't generally develop into a clone of you of their own accord.

I think the major difference is in the embryo case it's human intervention stopping life from happening, whereas with the cloning, etc it's human intervention that started the life happening.

OK it's human intervention that created the embryo in the first place, but that's not the issue I'm addressing, once created I don't see we have the right to undo that. Same way as if we made a clone of you I don't think we have the right to distroy either copy, so we'd just be stuck with 2 of you...
15th Mar, 2006 16:43 (UTC)
Hmm, ok. I think we disagree about a basic point. I would extend consideration to something that *is* alive, feeling, sapient, but not something that's going to be. Whereas you would.

I felt there must have been a good example which shows the problems with your ideas, but nothing I suggested was.

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