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Containing Wine....

Following Diploma lectures on Monday, am now curious as to how we perceive the packaging of wine, so a poll...

You go to the supermarket for some wine, you have the choice of wine in the following types of containers, which would you consider?

Glass bottle
4(40.0%)
Plastic bottle
0(0.0%)
Bag in box
0(0.0%)
Tetra Pack (as for juice cartons, etc)
0(0.0%)
Alumium Can
0(0.0%)

Assuming you could check in advance, which of the following closures?

cork
1(10.0%)
synthetic
0(0.0%)
screw cap
1(10.0%)


Why? (please comment)

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edith_the_hutt
25th Nov, 2005 12:08 (UTC)
There is a distinct correlation between good alcohol and glass bottles. Wine boxes tend to contain the same stuff that comes in glass bottles.
tienelle
25th Nov, 2005 13:57 (UTC)
What he said, but also including a slight prejudice against screw tops.
hmmm_tea
25th Nov, 2005 14:46 (UTC)
prejudice against screw tops.

ooo, why?
tienelle
27th Nov, 2005 22:58 (UTC)
My father was killed by a screw-top bottle, you insensitive clod!

Um. They don't strike me as providing as good a seal as a cork, which suggests the wine hasn't been in the bottle all that long, which seems to me to suggest it will be of poor quality. It's not terribly rational.
cartesiandaemon
25th Nov, 2005 12:09 (UTC)
Hmmm, ooh. I always automatically look for glass bottles (with any sort of top), but only now does it occur to me a carton with a tap actually might be easier.
hmmm_tea
25th Nov, 2005 12:18 (UTC)
bag in box does have the advantage of minimising the air contact of the wine once opened. The bag obviously collapses as the liquid's drained rather than leaving a space for air.
edith_the_hutt
25th Nov, 2005 12:23 (UTC)
It strikes me that with certain red wines you want a certain amount of oxidation to occur before drinking.
hmmm_tea
25th Nov, 2005 13:38 (UTC)
Yes, if you have a very young tannic red, you want oxidation to "age" it faster and soften the tannins for drinking (leaving a bottle to breath doesn't really do a lot though, because of the small surface area in touch with the air - decanting works much better...)

Then again, some wines are even deliberately oxidised by the winemaker to give them an oxidised flavour, olorosso sherry for example
edith_the_hutt
25th Nov, 2005 13:49 (UTC)
Hmmm... That's a point. I need a decanter.
cartesiandaemon
25th Nov, 2005 12:46 (UTC)
Ah, cunning. That could actually be better, I should get it for me, if not for wine-drunk-in-one-evening.
chess
25th Nov, 2005 12:22 (UTC)
Mostly because glass bottles look like a bottle of wine, and people are unlikely to be offended when presented with one, whereas the other things are risky. The closure thing is a little less obvious and more snooty to mention, so it probably wouldn't be an issue.
cartesiandaemon
25th Nov, 2005 12:48 (UTC)
Yes. Though it occurs to me most of my friends pride themselves on being unconstrained by traditions, so perhaps I should try brining a box one time.
hmmm_tea
25th Nov, 2005 13:40 (UTC)
The only real issue is because of these views it's generally only "cheap plonk" that's sold as bag in box - lowering the public view of bag in the box and we're stuck in a catch 22 situation.

At the end of the day, if you can get more for selling your wine in a bottle you will...
cartesiandaemon
25th Nov, 2005 13:47 (UTC)
Yes, I rather feared that might be the case[1]. We could buy the most acceptable available wine in bags, and then refill with the wine we want from whatever medium. But seems to be going backward...

[1] Pubilisilit.

[2] We need wineskins, they looked cool. And had the same advantages. OK, that's my xmas present sorted :)
mair_aw
25th Nov, 2005 12:27 (UTC)
I don't have a corkscrew.
hmmm_tea
25th Nov, 2005 12:31 (UTC)
:-O
mair_aw
25th Nov, 2005 12:41 (UTC)
I used to have one on my penknife, but it broke when I tried to open a bottle of wine with it.

We subsequently destroyed a saucepan with the bottle of wine (when trying to smash the bottle of wine with the saucepan), and eventually gave up and drank something else.

I've lost the penknife too now, so I doubly don't have a corkscrew.
hmmm_tea
25th Nov, 2005 14:47 (UTC)
remind me never to come near you when you're trying to open a bottle of wine...
emperor
25th Nov, 2005 15:33 (UTC)
Because I am a snob and would be suspicious of wine in other sorts of containers.
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