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Enough sticks, lets have some carrots

School leaving age to rise to 18

OK, people leaving school without skills to apply to a future job is an issue and it should be dealt with. I'm not entirely sure what the governments plans are regarding provision on this one, but surely forcing the matter can't be the solution.

Call me cynical, but I have visions of this 11% ending up staying at school doing academic courses they don't want to do and aren't really suitable for them, because they can't find a suitable apprenticeship and the law says they have to do something.

Yes, we need to get youth unemployment down, but surely it's important for young people to gain the extra freedom at this stage as part of growing up.

It seems to me that it would be better to see why these students are dropping out and make extra provisions to train them in a more suitable manor of their own free will then forcing them to go into something unsuitable. Without that surely the result of the legislation will be to just delay the process for 2 years as these people spend their time doing something they don't want to do, paying very little attention and not getting a lot out of it.


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12th Jan, 2007 12:23 (UTC)
It seems like that would be a dreadful experience for the young people whose minds work in a way not suited to school. I also think, wouldn't spending even more time trying to adapt their minds to schoolwork (willingly or not) make it even more difficult to adapt to doing whatever they are suited to afterwards? I mean I was only slightly not suited to it, and it was difficult enough to adapt to my real strong area of working on one open ended problem and spending occasional full days doing practical work; for somebody whose natural way of working is to solve one practical problem after another all day, or to concentrate on one piece of fiddly work all day, like plumbers and other jobs like that, it must be worse.
14th Jan, 2007 23:20 (UTC)
Will be interesting to see what sort of effect this has on 6th form truancy rates.
12th Jan, 2007 14:22 (UTC)
Presumably if they find a job it can be counted as a work placement scheme, so it sounds like it'll just take anyone 16-18 who's unemployed and reclassify them as "in education".

It's going to cause problems in areas that don't have a local further ed. college with a wide variety of courses and facilities.
14th Jan, 2007 23:19 (UTC)

It's certainly a good way to get rid of a statistic, but I can't see how it can work to the advantage of that 11% unless extra provision of training schemes is made.

Preferably this should be in terms of work based apprenticeships as you'd assume these people weren't in school, because they didn't want to be.
12th Jan, 2007 17:48 (UTC)
To quote the wonderful Dr Sutton : "If you don't want to learn physics, don't come here. Just go now, and don't waste both of our time. Go do something you want to do, you'll be better at it".

Staying on until 18 isn't a bad thing so long as people are doing things that will be of use. There's no point in cramming people into classes they don't want to /can't do , because that is just making your youth unemployment figures look good. Run classes in things people need to know, and that might be more helpful.

Personally I loved 6th form, it was like highschool, but the wankers who made my life hell weren't there. It would be a shame if this effect was ruined. Call me a snob but.. no - just call me a snob :)
14th Jan, 2007 23:14 (UTC)

That's the point, isn't it?

It's this stage that teaches you that you have to take responsibility for your own personal development.

If your being told you have to, then you fundamentally aren't taking this responsibility, you're just following the rules.
13th Jan, 2007 09:14 (UTC)
In fairness they are giving them more options that school.

But I do remember that one of the best things about A level was that everyone had decided to be there, they had a choice and decided they wanted to learn. If the enviroment is one of 'I don't want to learn, but it's less work than an apprentiship' I fear 6th form could be damaged for a much larger range of people.
14th Jan, 2007 23:11 (UTC)

Except there is a difference between making it leagally an option and physically providing those options. From what I can tell, it's the former that's happening not the latter.

I just think it would be better to provide more options to encourage people to do something useful in the way of training rather than saying "you must do something in the way of training" and making no extra provisions other than what's already in place.
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